I'm terrible at it. [She laughs, a little unexpectedly.] I wanted to learn a couple years ago, and I totally ruined my first attempt. It's got a huge scoop out of the middle where I got a little over-zealous with my shaping.

Even people who look put together are bad at things, and you're honestly amazing at surfboards. Like, the fact that you made a working prototype for a board that surfs by itself? My grandpa could never.